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Fitness

How to Determine Your Snatch Grip Width

One question that most people have when they first start to learn the snatch is, "How wide should the grip be?" Here are the differences between the grips and how to determine the best width for you.

Dresdin Archibald

Written by Dresdin Archibald Last updated on Nov 22, 2021

This week’s article is mainly for the newcomers to the Olympic lifts. One question that most people have when they first start to learn the snatch is, “How wide should the grip be?” This question is especially important to newcomers whose only previous contact with the weights has been with dumbbells or the standard barbell exercises that use a shoulder-width grip. The wide grip used in the snatch seems a little unnatural to them.

The Difference Between a Narrow and Wide Grip

The exact width of grip has been heavily influenced by the style of pulling used at the time any particular grip was recommended. In the old days when snatching was accomplished mainly by back-and-arm pulling, grip width was a trade-off between the lifter’s gripping and pulling strength, pulling distance, and shoulder flexibility. What this translates into is a choice between taking a narrow enough grip to obtain good purchase on the bar, but wide enough that shoulder flexibility is not impinged upon, while keeping pulling height to a minimum.

If you took too wide a grip, then with the arm pulling tactics used in those days made it difficult to move the bar very far. But if you moved your grip in, you could certainly hold on to the bar a lot better but then potentially have problems locking this thing out overhead. And the pull was longer. In those cases, lifts were often lost frontwards if the flexibility was insufficient or lost at the back door if the grip was too wide and flexibility was too extreme.

Nowadays when the so-called pull is mainly a push from the legs, grip width considerations for the snatch are somewhat different. Certainly sufficient gripping strength is still important, as it is all lifts. It should be remembered that the wider the grip the fewer fingers there will be that do any significant work in gripping the bar. Collar-to-collar grips for some lifters will mean that only the thumb and first two fingers (the pointer and the middle finger) are doing any work. The ring and baby fingers are just along for the ride. Move the grip in and the ring finger will come into play, and further still at some point the baby finger as well, but even with a clean grip those last two fingers are doing less work than the other three.

I remember this myself many years ago when my summer job had me operating a jackhammer. After a relatively short time on the machine being shook up all day, it started to affect my gripping strength. I was holding onto the machine for long periods of time and eventually realized that, especially in my baby and ring fingers, I had no gripping strength whatsoever. It apparently had done something to the nerves in those fingers that activated the gripping muscles. I even had to enter competition during that time and still had enough grip to set a personal record on my clean and jerk, proving that those last two fingers did not do too much work. I was also still able to snatch since those fingers did even less work there. Fortunately, I was soon taken off that machine and my gripping strength returned to normal.

Modern Lifting = Wider Grips

snatch width, snatch grip, snatch grip width, how wide is snatch grip, gripWith the modern pulling style, arm-pulling is no longer significant. It’s all in the legs, fortunately. This has one valuable advantage. It means that wider grips can now be contemplated if necessary. You will still need sufficient gripping strength in your middle and index fingers and the thumb, but bicep-pulling strength is no longer so important.

This is also good news for those who have problems with shoulder mobility or those tall athletes with long arms. The latter will want to take a wider grip, in absolute terms, of course. They will still be limited by the 1310mm inside dimensions of the bar. Nevertheless, many lifters still opt for narrower grips, and many coaches still have their recommendations as to grip width.

Traditional Methods of Determining Grip Width

And so what are these recommendations? Every coach seems to have his or her preferred method of calculating grip width. One recommendation is to extend the arms out sideways as if demonstrating your wingspan. Have somebody measure the distance from one elbow bone to the other. That’s how wide you should snatch. This is a good rule of thumb (pardon the pun), but what its supporters don’t consider is the relative lengths of the humorous and ulna. Those with long ulnae are going to have more problems with this grip. Those with shorter ones will have fewer problems. Another recommendation is holding the arms at a certain angle to the trunk. This works on a rough-and-ready basis, however the angle is often difficult to measure precisely.

Both of these methods still have to be adjusted according to the lifter’s current gripping strength and flexibility, and on a purely subjective basis – just what feels good to the lifter. Coaches supporting either method always temper their recommendations by allowing the lifter to move his or her grip in or out from the standard in order to find the ideal gripping width.

Modern Methods of Determining Grip Width

Today things have progressed on, especially under the influence of the new pulling styles. What many are advocating now appears to be somewhat more practical than older methods. Coaches now ask the lifter to hold the bar, stand up erect, and then move the grip in or out until the bar rests at the point where it should contact the hip joint at the start of the second pull.

Determining Grip Width in the Snatch

This will be the best possible biomechanical position for sending the bar on its path overhead. If the hands grip the bar at a narrower position, the bar will then rest somewhere on the upper thighs. At that point the thigh is effectively made shorter and therefore is less efficient. If the grip is moved out wider, resulting in the bar coming to rest above the hip crook, that will also be less efficient and at the same time the lifter will probably be holding the bar at such a wide angle that he or she is going to have flexibility problems and pulling mechanical problems.

So aim for that hip crook. This is your best mechanical position as far as the legs are concerned. Hopefully it will be also comfortable enough from a grip standpoint. If the grip is not strong enough at that position, two things have to be done. Number one, you better build up that grip strength. That will take a little while. Number two, in the meantime you may have to pull your grip in a little bit. This will sacrifice some pulling strength, but the bar will feel a little better in the hands for the time being. But keep working on your grip so you can move your hands out to where they should ideally be.

One final consideration is concerning the recommended grip width, how does it affect your flexibility? Advice here is similar to the previous one, except that if flexibility is insufficient the grip will have to be moved out, not in. Work that flexibility until you can do a shoulder dislocate at the recommended grip width.

SHOULDER DISLOCATES

Finally, as with the older-fashioned snatch grip advice, your ideal snatch grip is going to depend on your gripping strength, your flexibility, and your mechanical efficiency. And just like in the older days, that is determined more by trial and error than by any formula. Lifters will eventually find their ideal grip in that manner. At least today we have this hip crook area to serve as our initial guide.

Next week: Tips on the jerk grip width.

Photos courtesy of CrossFit Impulse.

Dresdin Archibald

About Dresdin Archibald

Dresdin Archibald is a 63-year-old accountant from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. He started weight training in 1963 at age 14, moving over to the Olympic-lifts in 1966, and continues training to this day.

As an athlete, Dresdin competed in his prime at 90 kg and did best lifts of 115 press, 102.5 snatch and 142.5 C&J (all kilos). He competed in three Canadian National Championships and two Canada Games, and also completed a month-long training camp at the famed Athleten Club Mutterstadt in Germany in 1974. Also on that trip was Rob Macklem, who took his first lifting photos there. Dresdin did take a turn at the Masters, lifting in the 1992 Worlds plus a couple of Pan-Ams. In his early days, he also did a bit of powerlifting, marking his 46th birthday with a 300 kg squat.

Dresdin has been an International referee since 1970 and was promoted to No. 1 level in 1980. He is still very active, producing a Referee’s Manual every Olympiad, which gives a fuller explanation of the IWF Technical Rules. He has officiated at Senior and University Worlds, Pan Am Games and Championships, as well as the Commonwealth Games. He has also help organize several National and International level competitions and served as a team leader at the LA Olympics and several Junior and Senior World Championships. Dresdin also served on the Canadian Olympic Committee.

Dresdin has met many luminaries over his years of involvement in Olympic lifting, including Bob Hise II and III, Bill Starr, Oscar State, Tamas Ajan, Lyn Jones, Wally Holland, Clarence Johnson, Philippe St. Cyr, the Coffa Brothers, Maurice Allan, Jim Schmitz, Dieter Stamm, John Thrush and many others. Without those contacts, he would not be in the position to share any of his knowledge today.

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